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Anonymous asked: Why do people who oppose israel talk about antizionism? How are antisemitism and antizionism linked?
Let me preface this answer with two points
1. I support Palestine & Palestinian struggles for autonomy and reclamation of the occupied territory
2. I oppose the colonialist, imperialist state of Israel that has stolen land with help from the Western powers.
There is a lot of antisemitism in antizionist circles, because antizionism is very broad, and does not include support for Palestine or Palestinian people or their struggles against the apartheid state of Israel.
This antisemitism is a problem but it is not coming from Palestinian people, or Arab people, or Middle-Eastern people or West Asian people.
The largest sources of antisemitism in antizionism/anti-Israel circles comes from white pseudo-leftists, Neo-Nazis, white conspiracy theorists, white liberals etc etc.
Sense a pattern there?
Many of these camps don’t care about Palestine, they just hate Jewish people enough that they hate Israel because to them it is a Jewish state first & foremost, before it is an imperialist state, if they bother to carry on beyond their antisemitic situation
Because antizionism is not pro-Palestine/pro-Palestinian, you will find racists & antisemites being anti-Israel, and then supporters of Israel will latch on to these examples and use them to deflect conversations about Palestine & Israel by saying that if you oppose Israel and support Palestine you must be antizionist and antisemitic like those people over there.
Now, I don’t think it’s necessary to get into zionism or what it is, because there’s a lot of different definitions, with some anti-Israeli Jewish people saying that zionism is about Jewish self-determination, not establishing a racist state.
Instead, let us approach Israel the same way we approach any other settler-based colonialist state.
Because, despite their Jewish identity, the founders of Israel were still white colonialist Europeans. They stole land from the indigenous population, engaged in genocide against them, broke treaties with them, placed them in open-air prisons, systematically discriminate and oppress them, and continue to do so.
I don’t know or care where zionism fits into this, because whether or not this is what zionism intended or opposed does not matter. What matters is that Israel is an illegitimate colonialist state. It is an apartheid state. It is anti-black, anti-Palestinian, anti-Muslim, anti-Arab. It follows in the footsteps of the English settlers who stole North America, of the Iberian settlers who stole Mesoamerica & South America, following them rank & file into committing atrocities against indigenous populations.
Now with the more recent influx of African immigrants, Israel can also engage in stringent anti-blackness just like their spiritual predecessors.
Bottom line, Zionism doesn’t really matter in the context of opposing Israel and supporting Palestine.
I’m no Zionist, but it seems like there’s something being left out here. Something that happened to the Jews that maybe’s not mentioned here. Something that maybe would explain a lot of this Mayyyyyybeeeee???
I want you to know that you’re speaking to someone who has family who were survivors of the Shoah. I do hope you’re also not goy because a lot of gentile assholes exploit the Shoah to explain why they support Israel.
I will not let you exploit people murdered by the German regime & the Western nations who refused to take in refugees to justify the genocide & land theft that Israel & the West has waged against the Palestinian people. Israel does not care for people of the diaspora, or else they wouldn’t sterilize Ethiopian Jewish people for being black Africans, or keep them in detention centers. They also wouldn’t treat Palestinian Jewish people the way they do for being Palestinian.
Israel would not enegage in neo-liberal economcis and create not only an apartheid state but a gentrified, highly stratified state that guts their own working class, not to mention that of the indigenous people, if they really cared about the Jewish people. The nationalist fervor encouraged by the state of Israel is used to justify exclusion & oppression.
I would appreciate if you never again deflected any conversation by trying to exploit the victims of a historical tragedy to explain why today Israel is a colonialist settler state, especially when the conversation had nothing to with the Shoah.
The problem is that unless you’re anti-Israel while also being JUST AS anti-American, anti-Canadian, anti-Saudi Arabian (look up the history of Saudi Arabia and how it was created), and anti-most of the current countries in existence, you’re pretty much singling the JEWISH state out for something every other big player on the national stage is guilty of.
Every once in a while I see someone comment on the persecution of Palestinians by Israel with a “shouldn’t the Jews know better?” and “they of all people” and “haven’t they learned from the Holocaust?”
Fine. Would you like to know what we learned from the Holocaust? From…
Arts Management, Purchase College
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psa: feminazi is a fucking disgusting term that compares fighting for women’s rights to genocide.
it was coined by rush limbaugh (that alone should be enough to make you stay far far away from it)
it is a racist term, and it is disrespectful to marginalized groups who suffered in nazi germany (so jews, roma, lgbt folks, people with disabilities, etc.)
do not use it.
if you disagree with feminists: do not use it
if you are a feminist: do not reclaim it
if you are the type of person who would show up to a cafe five minutes from closing with your whole family and order shit that messes up all the cleaned shit (sandwiches that need to be panini pressed, quiches, etc) and then insist on eating in AND paying when you’re finished, i honestly wish you a life of grief
and if after all that you wouldn’t even leave a tip, there is an especially shitty place in hell for you